http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#9b9f0d4a-815b-43cb-9857-13c6feea1074 I have a heard of studies, and books on the subject of just how aware plants are of us, even our thoughts. http://www.urbanscout.org/hey-vegans-plants-have-feelings-too/ Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:06:10 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#9b9f0d4a-815b-43cb-9857-13c6feea1074 LaDonna Lorcan 2009-06-05T08:06:10Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#b23dcff9-ab97-44ab-a785-d42c760f3843 If ever become single again you would be the type of man I would want . You are a modern day King . Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:24:38 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#b23dcff9-ab97-44ab-a785-d42c760f3843 LaTonya 2009-04-16T03:24:38Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#3db05a6f-2079-4984-b1ab-8e1e6a21b968 Yes, Read Sacred Woman also by Queen Afua and African Holistic Health by:Laila O. Afrika. You can purchase these books on Amazon.com at a reasonable price used or new. Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:20:53 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#3db05a6f-2079-4984-b1ab-8e1e6a21b968 LaTonya 2009-04-16T03:20:53Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#3c541682-caca-4d96-93ab-17251547b89a Ya I understand that with the smell during food preparation! Did I mention I was a vegetarian during my teen years from like 11 to 17 (would have to check with my diary when exactly that happened ;) )? I rmmbr I could not stand the smell of meat. Especially raw one. And I pretty much forced myself to taste a bit of chicken which I had loved before when I had decided it was better for me to eat trully balanced (incl meat) for sports reasons (did professional dancing back then, and had some minor health issues most likely related to not eating meat). I still have a bit of a hard time *preparing* meat (not the eating part), the disgust with its smell above all while preparing and cooking it stuck with me. So from that point I understand wanting to be wiht someone who shares your world/life style views. However as I mentioned ppl can change their world views with the years.. All the best to you :) Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:42:13 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#3c541682-caca-4d96-93ab-17251547b89a dina 2009-01-04T18:42:13Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#90f47545-447a-4c14-b06c-530174df13a7 I have lived with a meat eater for several years. I find it mildly silly to believe that by being intimate with him I would be putting my own health at risk. For me the only inconvienience and issues are: sometimes having to smell cooking meat (which I can't seem to tolerate well anymore), as well as being concerned that he is at the very least consuming organic meats (which I don't think he always does) for his own safety and being with a veg/vegan would be easier for me when it comes to food prep for sure, I will not deny that, I would never though try and force him to stop eating meat if he chooses to. I agree that being in a relationship with a vegan would be easier if you're trying to raise your family, because trying to keep your kids from eating meat if there's meat in the house would be impossible! I have been with my man now for eleven years. I would'nt ever even think of a life without him, meat eater or not. My 2 cents, L Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:58:06 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#90f47545-447a-4c14-b06c-530174df13a7 Lisa 2009-01-03T17:58:06Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#6045c0c4-5d7e-4350-b89a-069fb4819c6f hello!! and uff! I feel like there s some new artificial boundaries between human beings and potential love interests drawn up. as if national or religious boundaries were not enough, now we re about to segregate into the good and bad based on lifestyle choices? I can only disagree.. First of all I sincerely believe my "faith" (be it ethics or life style or philosophy) is only strong if I can tolerate and love someone following a different one at my side. I also hate the idea of kids being forced into it - you seem to feel really hard about it. I can only tell you if you raised me with such talk of "you re not supposed to eat meat, it s toxic, dont you dare eat meat at daddy s place" the first thing I ll do, at the latest in my puberty, is eating lots of meat once you re not watching! and it would taste so much better knowing it s forbidden (I did that with pork as a young adult..) Bringing values close to your children is one thing - but respect them as individuals, if they do not share them or feel too much pressured, they might rebel. I did this with religious education, and still resent my parents for enforcing their world view upon me and thus disrespecting me as a thinking reflecting human being making proper choices. Also to be totally honest I think the "meat eater"/parasite stories can create hatred and unfair prejudice. In one Buddhist region, it s an island I forgot the name sorry.., Muslims are persecuted by radical Buddhist monks as subhumans for their being "meat eaters". I used to be a vegetarian for 7 or 8 years, went back to eating meat, and for me I have to say I did it out of ethcial considerations (not eating our brothers and sisters), but I was not healthy. It was not for me, and my health and fitness increased eating all that s available in a balanced way. Maybe I made mistakes in my vegetarian nutrition, it s pointless to me now as I am healthy and feeling well. My current nutrition might not be forever, but I feel it unfair to denounce a conscious fit person as carrying parasites, bad energy etc. It s simply another unfair prejudice and degradation of "the other" to me. And as for limiting your choice of partner to a vegan: I know a family where the couple got together as vegetarians, they ve had kids (now in primary school). The man for some reason changed (everyone can..) and has started eating meat. he hides it from his wife. he s getting more and more frustrated over a life choice he has every right to, and resents his wife for being "fundamentalist" on nutrition. He fears he cant tell her and as his frustration increases he probably blows her "intolerance" out of proportion. I have a hard time believing she d break the family for that - but I start to feel he might because he s getting more and more angry at HER (if illegitimately). So limiting the choice of life partner to a pretty small group might not pay off. Not only might one forego a great partner for ideological reasons, the perceived more "suitable" partner might change.. and then what? Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:52:07 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#6045c0c4-5d7e-4350-b89a-069fb4819c6f dina 2008-11-20T15:52:07Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#1ef0bb64-e828-4cee-835e-016621f8cccf I am not attracted to women who eat meat unfortunately and it has been that way for me since I ate meat myself.....i gues its the same as if a woman smokes cigarettes..... i just found them to be better looking.... better smelling....... more attractive.....and if they feed me it will always be the healthiest food you know...but seeing a women eat bacon and all this crap is a huge turn off......i didnt realize i was this way until a long string of girls i dated were vegs...and i didnt even know they were...... it was just a natural attraction wether you want to believe that or not...but my mother was/is a veg so maybe it was somehow programmed into me..naturally Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:36:25 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#1ef0bb64-e828-4cee-835e-016621f8cccf $item.owner.firstName 2007-12-21T17:36:25Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#629bddc3-f43c-49f0-9c75-051be8f2e1d9 i agree. the substances that plants produce to encourage seed spreading is a defense mechanism to stay alive and reproduce. animals should not be fattened up and slaughtered repeatedly. that is inhumane. but not eating meat. that is quite human. we should eat only what we need to, and not have all of these gourmet restaurants that serve fillet mignon and all these fast food chains, and then we would not have to torture and slaughter innocent animals. we have way too much food in this country just to indulge a already full stomach. it is ashame. Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:56:56 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#629bddc3-f43c-49f0-9c75-051be8f2e1d9 $item.owner.firstName 2007-04-20T16:56:56Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#39b37a70-1b5d-4686-aa8b-e2d9c92e0b3e "and another topic.... Also i'm sure plants don't want to be eaten either. they have bulit-in defense mechanisms that they use to stay alive - orange/apple/watermelon peels to protect their inside flesh, and plants release of toxins and grow thorns/prickly skins to keep pests away - so why are the butchers and meat eaters evil human beings for killing/eating animals? we're (human meat eaters and vegetarians/vegans) at the top of the food chain and we all eat the "lower" life forms. No one particular type of eater is more "humane" than the other." Some plants, such as fruit, attract rather than repel others to eat them so the seeds can spread. I wouldn't call meat-eaters evil, but I don't think there is anything humane about needlessly torturing and slaughtering billions of animals a year for human consumption. Furthermore, it is not just the consumption of animals that is inhumane; I don't think we have the right to exploit another species. Why should we feel we have the right to control their lives and reproductive systems? I wouldn't want someone to continuously rape me, keep me pregnant , take my babies, take my milk, feed me hormones, while they torture and slaughter my children, then slaughter me when I'm no longer useful. Just as black people were treated as lower life forms because of our race, animals are seen as lower life forms because they are a different species, yet they feel pain and desire to live just as we do. Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:33:09 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#39b37a70-1b5d-4686-aa8b-e2d9c92e0b3e Mystic 2007-04-20T11:33:09Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#fafef9b5-8c4d-4390-a688-92e551049446 i mean that is a bit extreme. that's why we have immune systems. meat eaters live long healthy lives. i do agree that animal flesh carries more toxins on average than plants. and that meat consumption should be kept to a minimum, or not eaten at all. but plants carry parasites as well. we all live in this ecosystem together - from microorganisms to humans. nothing is "safe". and meat eaters are not "poisonous" lovers. that's proposterous and zealous. and what are you gonna do, miss an opportunity to be with the best man/woman in your llfe, because they eat meat? and another topic.... Also i'm sure plants don't want to be eaten either. they have bulit-in defense mechanisms that they use to stay alive - orange/apple/watermelon peels to protect their inside flesh, and plants release of toxins and grow thorns/prickly skins to keep pests away - so why are the butchers and meat eaters evil human beings for killing/eating animals? we're (human meat eaters and vegetarians/vegans) at the top of the food chain and we all eat the "lower" life forms. No one particular type of eater is more "humane" than the other. Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:07:59 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#fafef9b5-8c4d-4390-a688-92e551049446 $item.owner.firstName 2007-04-19T19:07:59Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#c2e288cd-6718-4746-a6f2-c03c5b31e1a1 I made it a point to only date vegans paticularly to avoid toxic saliva and toxic sperm. Meat eaters consume death and diseased animal caucauses, so that's what your'e sleeping with...after all you are what you eat. If you eat unhealthy you produce unhealthy, toxic sperm and bodily fluids,..not to mention you are more prone to a toxic and diseased mindstate. And also what happens if you get serious and have kids...how are the children going to be raised. Whose to say that you won't break up and your kids go over to see their daddy and daddy feeds them meat becuz that's how he lives. It's just something to think about. I wanted my kids raised Vegan no matter what, so I married a Vegan. I've tried scenarios where I met a non vegan and tried to get them on the path of eating healthier but the point is they have to do it for themselves and not becuz you want them to, so I decided to just avoid that type of situation altogether. Hope I was of some help. Peace Love and Truth Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:33:29 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#c2e288cd-6718-4746-a6f2-c03c5b31e1a1 Qen Ammsa Nut 2006-10-22T20:33:29Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#7d3570a8-6bf0-4eab-95d0-35fe6d8ebdc4 Not to mention the energy/chi of the food being consumed. The old adage "you are what you eat" really holds true. Flesh has a lower vibration than vegetable based foods especially raw foods I'm not advocating non relations between the two I'm just saying if you are going to go there then you are also going to have to deal with the energies that are involved. peace Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:18:51 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#7d3570a8-6bf0-4eab-95d0-35fe6d8ebdc4 Khau 2006-10-14T15:18:51Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#9095a8b6-2c83-4b18-b6a3-db31b011efd7 ewww. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:38:48 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#9095a8b6-2c83-4b18-b6a3-db31b011efd7 LaDonna Lorcan 2006-10-12T20:38:48Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#507a2cdd-0aa0-4f72-9424-c0bab2d438bc I read that too in her book, I'm not suprise though. Think about it meat eaters have different parasites than veggie eaters and if your swopping fluids your swopping parasites. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:07:57 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#507a2cdd-0aa0-4f72-9424-c0bab2d438bc Nuru 2006-10-12T17:07:57Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#1d83f266-acfe-4cf9-9d8f-b81c97fc0e7b Wow, never heard that one. Might want to go by the Ayurveda tribe and ask. Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:34:09 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#1d83f266-acfe-4cf9-9d8f-b81c97fc0e7b LaDonna Lorcan 2006-10-12T04:34:09Z http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#0e59f5b1-90ee-46ff-94fd-25c215e5f8e8 I've read (in Queen Afua's books) that meat-eaters who are intimate with vegetarians can poison their mates. Has anyone heard of this, and does anyone have resources I can share regarding this topic? I have a friend who has never heard of this, and I want to pass along information. Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:43:01 GMT http://blackvegetarians.tribe.net/thread/035a26c3-08f3-4ae6-a55a-dc1ef7c9ff34#0e59f5b1-90ee-46ff-94fd-25c215e5f8e8 Mystic 2006-10-11T20:43:01Z